Review Submission Tweaks, 154 Marvel Trade List Updates, 132 Transformers Books
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1. Simon wrote on at January 4, 2011 5:51 pm:

   I would go with a separate list for the Transformers series due to fact I am interested in collecting it and do my very best to avoid Marvel at all costs!

   Just submitted another review for you as well, taking my tally up to 5 in two days! When there is more work to avoid being done, I am likely to write a fair few in one go again.

   You obviously have been very busy recently with updating the site and hopefully these reviews will help ensure that you can afford to take your time to get the Marvel list perfect.

   Very excited to see the list once it is up, as Steve Perry once sang “Don’t stop believin”.

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   Ian replied on January 4th, 2011 at 5:57 pm:

   haha, thanks Simon. I’m leaning towards a separate list as well – it would allow me to really finesse it, which, since through several publishers, animated and movie continuities, it probably needs!

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2. duncanpr wrote on at January 4, 2011 10:47 pm:

   Glad I could help! :)

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3. Ryard wrote on at January 5, 2011 12:54 am:

   Yeah, totally voted for a specialized Transformers section…or even a Hasbro section that could also include G.I. Joe.

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   Ian replied on January 5th, 2011 at 7:53 am:

   I thought about that, but the GI Joe crossover is self contained in its OWN universe. hooboy

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   Ryard replied on January 5th, 2011 at 9:32 pm:

   Not sure what you mean by that…the original G.I. Joe vs Transformers, while questionably in the Joe universe, was definitively in the Transformers one (with Bumblebee upgrading to Goldbug). But then the issue of was it in the official Joe universe was answered when events in the later issues of G.I. Joe led directly into the Generation Two series (Destro’s transforming castle was mistaken for a Decepticon. Makes perfect sense). While the Marvel Transformers continuity ended with Generation Two, the Joe continuity was continued by Devil’s Due, and has been re-continued (ignoring, as far as I can tell, Devil’s Due continuation stories but not their origin stories) by IDW’s Real American Hero series. And do NOT get me started on the Action Force issues.

   The Devil’s Due/Dreamwave Joe/Transformers were their own thing though, yeah.

   And God help me I shouldn’t know that off the top of my head. I need help.

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   Ian replied on January 5th, 2011 at 9:52 pm:

   It’s possible I was misinformed or wherever I read it was only referring to the devil’s due stuff. It seems all three trades here were published by Devil’s Due?

   hahah I think I’ll be consulting you when/if we get around to our hasbro/transformers/little play toys list.

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4. Marc wrote on at January 5, 2011 11:58 pm:

   Would it be possible to include just the Marvel issues of Transformers on the Marvel list (i.e., the “Classic Transformers” trades)? Or does it have to be all Marvel or all separate?

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   Ian replied on January 6th, 2011 at 12:06 am:

   What’s keeping me from just going ahead and doing that is that we’d have to have separate database entries for all 14 of those books. So that means 14 duplicate entries. I dunno.. maybe that’s less of a big deal than I think, but I could see it confusing people who are just searching for books to add to their collections, etc. It’s already kind of a problem with some lists.

   The main problem is that I can’t give things two different sort values, and the lists all technically are going to start overlapping. In “time” actually, if that makes it any easier to understand, since each book is assigned a date value to sort it.

   :-/

   I don’t know, I probably should have been bright enough to figure out some way to give each book a separate sort value for separate lists and have each list simply display by that list’s sort value system, but I had no idea the site was going to get this complex when I originally came up with the system. Y2K style issue, haha.

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   Marc replied on January 6th, 2011 at 4:03 am:

   In that case, I’d say leave Transformers out of the Marvel list for now. I kind of feel the same way about Conan and G.I. Joe, honestly. It doesn’t make much sense (to me) to have, for example, some random Cobra Commander miniseries listed right alongside New Avengers. None of those series ever affected Marvel continuity in a major way, and any issues in which they actually interacted with Marvel characters are unlikely to ever be reprinted again. If you eventually find a way to include them on more than one list, though, you could always add the Marvel series back in.

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   Ian replied on January 6th, 2011 at 9:44 am:

   I don’t know why I feel like I should leave all the conan stuff in. My gut is telling me it’s more a part of the marvel u, but maybe I should just put it on a separate list. You’re right that it doesn’t interact too too much.

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   Ryard replied on January 6th, 2011 at 2:25 pm:

   Transformers and Joe, yeah…I actually tend to agree about leaving them out, since they aren’t really part of the MU proper, Transformers/New Aventers notwithstanding. However, the Marvel Conan, and ESPECIALLY Red Sonja are Marvel Universe canon, even if they’ll never be able to mention those characters by name again. I doubt we’ll ever see Conan-specific stuff again, but Kulan Gath appeared in the Marvel Universe in past decade, not to mention the Sonja/Spidey crossover. The last time I can recall a Conan appearance in Marvel was Atlantis Attacks, I think. Oh, maybe Conan-Rune, I suppose.

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